Should the Catholic Church meddle with state affairs?

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Should the Catholic Church meddle with state affairs?

Post by pixie on Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:53 pm

Thomasians!

Ano ang opinyon nyo sa 'pakiki-alam' ng simbahang katoliko sa ilang mga pamamalakad ng pamahalaan? Tingin nyo ba exaggerate na sila o ayos lang?

Ang Simbahang Katoliko ang sinasabing 'moral force' ng bansa at totoo namang malaki ang nagawa nilang papel sa ilang mga makasaysayang kaganapan sa bansa katulad ng EDSA 1 at EDSA 2.

pero marami naman ang nagtaas ng kilay ng pakialamanan nila ang Proyekto ng DOH na namigay ang DOH ng condom nung Valentines day. Sabi ni CC, pinopromote raw ng DOH ang premarital sex eklavu, sabi naman ng DOH pinopromote lang nila ang safe sex.

Sa tingin nyo ba, dapat nangengeelam ang simbahan sa mga ganitong mga bagay o pabayaan nalang nila ang gubyerno na gawin ang trabaho nila.

Interesting marinig ang opinyon ng mga galing sa catholic school Smile

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Re: Should the Catholic Church meddle with state affairs?

Post by dominick on Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:01 pm

The state and the church must help each other for the better. THe church is there to guide the people but not to the point of directly directing the people what to do.

However, the state could consider the Church's opinion but will still be responsible for its decisions.


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Re: Should the Catholic Church meddle with state affairs?

Post by r0en on Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:10 pm

I think the state shouldnt interfere. Give options and offer suggestions? yes. But rallying and preaching one sided beliefs to the filipino people? no. They are there to guide our immortal souls. Not to gain power politically. But then again, history always repeats itself. It seems that no matter what we do, we make the same mistake over and over again...

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Post by dominick on Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:20 pm

Tama.. The church is very much dictating the people of what to do. Bumabalik tuloy ung setting nung spanish time.

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Post by r0en on Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:31 pm

exactly! before you know it may inquisition na. haayz. dito lang ata sa pinas' may ganyan eh. T.T

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Post by dominick on Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:38 pm

fanatic kasi most people here sa religion e tsss

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Re: Should the Catholic Church meddle with state affairs?

Post by centz_ on Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:02 am

against God's will daw ang ginagawa ng government especially ang DOH (housebill 5043 reproductive health bill) sa pag pigil ng pagpaparami or humanitae vitae.

for other references.
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Re: Should the Catholic Church meddle with state affairs?

Post by dominick on Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:57 am

yup centz... pag tinake literally... hehehe

pero for me, ok lang ung birth control... its a matter of choice talaga. Smile

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Re: Should the Catholic Church meddle with state affairs?

Post by cholzee on Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:08 pm

sige. well, it's not like the people are being fanatics of the Catholic Church. but it's so happened that we fear the Church so much, i mean most of us. through that fear, many people have been misled by their beliefs. a lot of people have closed their eyes and ears and eventually chose to depend wholly on what the Church says.

that.
is.
wrong.

we can't bear to see our nation moving towards nothing, correct? but in the other side, we can't really blame our fellow Filipinos especially the unfortunate ones if they resolve into something like "bahala na" or if they appoint anyone, anywhere, anytime to lead this country... because they haven't been given the education they need.

unlike us, we understand what's happening.

the Church is overdoing things. and what pushes them is the community of these people who are in great need. "kawawa din naman sila, wala kasi silang mapagsumbungan at mapagsabihan ng kanilang mga hinaing".

yes, for me, the Church must not meddle with the government's decisions. but i'm trying to see things in a different perspective. though i actually want death penalty to be implemented. i know it's cruel. for that, i might be cruel too.

the Church will always oppose the government. nothing's going to seem right. let's face it. they're not gonna run out of reasons to dislike a leader. they hate every leader. they hate everyone in the cabinet.

it's hard to comprehend but that's just the way it is.

we have a new president now. let's hope for something good to happen.


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Post by centz_ on Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:07 am

hindi naman daw ksi naramdaman ng simbahan kung ganu kahirap magpalaki ng mga anak, kaya ganun ganun na lamang ang pagkontra nila

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Re: Should the Catholic Church meddle with state affairs?

Post by dominick on Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:10 am

oo nga... (except for some.)

Lets just hope for the best.

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Re: Should the Catholic Church meddle with state affairs?

Post by centz_ on Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:08 am

siguro kung ibabaling ng government ang attention ng mga tao sa pagtratrabaho para kumita. hindi magiging problema ang pagdami ng populasyon. kaso magiging singapore tayo. hehe kunti lang populasyon pag ngyari.

sa nakikita ko parang chain reaction ksi

pag oras na ngkaroon ng mgandang trabaho ang mga tao - mwawalan sila ng past time like coitus - uunlad ang bansa - kokonti naman ang man power ng bansa dahil wala ng producer dahil di na nila ginagawang past time ito. haha ewan parang equivalent - exchange

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Re: Should the Catholic Church meddle with state affairs?

Post by dominick on Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:21 pm

Educate the people properly...

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Re: Should the Catholic Church meddle with state affairs?

Post by jep_jeff on Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:44 am

from what I heard from a reliable source about sa RH bill, most of it is crap i think? kasi parang dating sakin nung mga naka sulat is may bahid ng corruption ehh. another is parang 'ok' lang daw mag abort ng baby..

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Re: Should the Catholic Church meddle with state affairs?

Post by dominick on Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:05 am

as per our theo class, may mga grounds para maging legal ang abortion sa current Church law.


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